WesternGamer 49 Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) Note: Due to me being busy, don't expect any help from me. I apologize for this inconvenience. I see that people are having issues installing mods for Red Dead Redemption 2. This troubleshooting guide will help you get your mods working. Thanks to @Entreped for some solutions on this guide. 1. Make sure you are not using a pirated version of the game. Sometimes the files in that version of the game is preventing the asi loader from work properly. Note: There is no support for the pirated version of the game. 2. Check that your Antivirus software is not blocking read/write access. This can prevent mods from working. Also Windows may also block the files so you would need to unblock the file in the file's properties window. Unblock by checking Unblock and clicking OK. This only applies to .dll and .asi files. 3. Make sure that you have the latest version of the mod. Some mods don’t support the latest version of the game. You can check this by seeing if the mod was updated after July 14 last year. If your mod does not support the latest version of the game, unfortunately you can’t use the mod. 4. You may need to give your Windows user account full control to the mod files you downloaded. To see how to do that, refer to this article. This fix may work if your Windows user account is not an admin account. 5. Know what your mod needs to work. This can include Script Hook RDR 2 (Script Hook + dinput8.dll ASI Loader), Community Script Hook (Script Hook for .DLL based mods), ASI Loader (version.dll ASI Loader for mods using MULTIPLAYER components like Red Dead Offline). Dinput8.dll is your go to ASI Loader and comes packaged with ScriptHookRDR2.dll, both of which go in the base game folder which houses the RDR2.exe. You only need version.dll if you are running a mod that brings something from ONLINE into SINGLEPLAYER. The mod page should tell you if this is the case. This file also goes in the base game folder which houses the RDR2.exe. That being said, you can run dinput8.dll and version.dll simultaneously. They do not conflict, they do not cause stuttering, they do not cause bugs. If any of those problems occur it is because you are either installing something wrong, or one of your mods is breaking the game / conflicting with another mod. Note: If a mod states that you can't use both asi loaders at the same time, that overrides the statement above. Note: Both asi loaders require ScriptHookRDR2.dll! You can get it here: Script Hook RDR2. 6. Know where to put the mods themselves. Mods that have .ASI or .DLL go in the base game folder which houses the RDR2.exe. These mods typically come with a .INI file as well in which you can open to edit how the mod functions. 7. Read the MOD page carefully, including any pinned comments / posts. The Changelogs and DOCS tab can also sometimes hold relevant information. LML Specific instructions: 8. If the game crashes when you start the game or when you load into a save, replace the .asi file with an older version of LML. You will need to do some trial and error to see which older version will work. Start with the last version, then go back one version if the game crashes. 9. Check that the lml mods are not causing the problem. Some people don't know that the mods can be the issue. Sometimes the mod is causing the issue and you do not know as lml does not show any indication of if lml is working ingame. To test if lml is working download this lml mod. (Don't worry, it is not a virus/malware.) Unzip the folder inside the zip file into the lml folder. You should see a different startup video that shows a logo of a different developer. The video is not made by me and the mod should be ONLY used to test if lml is working. If the video was changed, then there is some problem with you lml mods. 10. LML mods are dropped into the LML folder itself and are most commonly .META and .YMT format, though there are others as well. These mods come prepackaged with an install.xml file which installs the mod when you OPEN the Mod Manager UI and click the "View and manage your currently installed modifications" button. Every time you add or remove a mod, you open the Mod Manager and go to that tab. You will see a checkmark next to the mod showing it's active. You can also overwrite mods here as well, though I don't personally recommend it. These mods can also be installed manually by puting the mod folder in the lml folder. Some LML mods may use "Stream" and "Replace" folders. The files for these are most commonly .YTD and .YDD format, though there are others as well. These folders do not come pre-packaged with the LML install, mostly because they are not required anymore. Mod authors can simply install these type of mods through the install.xml. If the mod author has not done this, simply open the LML folder, right click to add a new folder, and name it "stream" and/or "replace." The mod page for the mod you are installing should tell you if it's a "stream" or "replace" mod, and might even come downloaded in one of those folders. If so, simply drag it into the LML folder if that is the case. 11. Make sure you don't have mods altering the same file. For example: If two of the mods you are using each modify the game catalog (catalog_sp.ymt), they will not work together. There are three exceptions. 1) The mod author has provided a merge. 2) You know how to merge the conflicting files yourself. 3) You check the overwrite button next to the mod you don't want having priority in LMM (Lenny Mod Manager). I personally never use option 3 as it's just not very reliable as Lenny Mod Manager sometimes has some issues. I recommend the first two options. If neither of those are possible, pick the mod you want most and move on. 12. Make sure you have the latest version of lml. Some mods do not work with older versions of lml. LST Specific Instructions: 13. Make sure that you don't copy over the version.dll included in Lenny's SImple Trainer if you already have one. If you don't have version.dll in your game directory, please download it here and install that version.dll. 14. If your game crashes when after you install Lenny's SImple Trainer and have LML installed also, you cannot use Lenny's SImple Trainer due to a conflict. Please remove all files related to Lenny's SImple Trainer and install and alternative trainer. A better alternative would be Rampage (Not endorsed/sponsored). Edited October 24, 2022 by WesternGamer 1 Quote
R2400 0 Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 @WesternGamer Hi, I tried that and still nothing. As far as I know i have install LML properly and the other mods. Could you take a look at my folder Quote
WesternGamer 49 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Posted September 9, 2021 8 hours ago, R2400 said: @WesternGamer Hi, I tried that and still nothing. As far as I know i have install LML properly and the other mods. Could you take a look at my folder @R2400 Can you provide me with a list of mods that you use with links to where you download them? I will try to use the mods that you have and try to make it work on my computer. I will then send a zip file where you can unpack the contents into the rdr2 root folder after you move the existing mod files to a safe location. Quote
R2400 0 Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 @WesternGamer Yh sure. Give me like 30 minutes and I will send you the list. Thanks dude, I've never met someone so kind. Quote
R2400 0 Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 @WesternGamer Heres my list Script Hook RDR2- http://www.dev-c.com/rdr2/scripthookrdr2/ RDR 2 Asi Loader 0.2.1- Lenny's Mod Loader RDR 0.5.7872.2247- Lenny's Simple Trainer 1.4.1- Red Dead Offline 1.3.3- RDR - Contracts- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/421 Hunting Wagon- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/133 Stash That Lantern 2.8- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/333?tab=description Crime and Law Rebalance and Enhancement- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/569?tab=files (I downloaded just the main file) WhyEm's Assortment Red Dead Offline Edition- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/671?tab=files (I downloaded the optional file that is compatible with red dead offline) Ped Damage Overhaul- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/184?tab=files (I downloaded just the main file) Duels- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/500 RDR2 Photorealistic reshade- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/4 ReShade- https://reshade.me/ (My games running on the vulkan version but I this shouldn't impact the other mods) Bounties Expansion - Replayable Bounties- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/210?tab=description (Main edition) Quote
WesternGamer 49 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Posted September 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, R2400 said: @WesternGamer Heres my list Script Hook RDR2- http://www.dev-c.com/rdr2/scripthookrdr2/ RDR 2 Asi Loader 0.2.1- Lenny's Mod Loader RDR 0.5.7872.2247- Lenny's Simple Trainer 1.4.1- Red Dead Offline 1.3.3- RDR - Contracts- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/421 Hunting Wagon- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/133 Stash That Lantern 2.8- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/333?tab=description Crime and Law Rebalance and Enhancement- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/569?tab=files (I downloaded just the main file) WhyEm's Assortment Red Dead Offline Edition- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/671?tab=files (I downloaded the optional file that is compatible with red dead offline) Ped Damage Overhaul- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/184?tab=files (I downloaded just the main file) Duels- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/500 RDR2 Photorealistic reshade- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/4 ReShade- https://reshade.me/ (My games running on the vulkan version but I this shouldn't impact the other mods) Bounties Expansion - Replayable Bounties- https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/210?tab=description (Main edition) @R2400 Thanks! I will try to make a mod configuration that will work for you! Quote
WesternGamer 49 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Posted September 9, 2021 @R2400 I might have found the issue, try to replace version.dll with dinput.dll. I tested version.dll before trying to make a mod configuration for you and it did not work. I tested it with my custom .asi mod and the asi mod did nothing (The mod hogties the player right after loading in, when tested with dinput.dll.). Since version.dll did not work for me and most likely the same problem for you, I would recommend you deleting version.dll and replacing it with dinput.dll. You can download it here at: http://www.dev-c.com/rdr2/scripthookrdr2/. If that fixes the issue then I apologize that I wasted your time making you find the links for the mods. If the issue is resolved, feel free to report other issues here. It does not matter if it is not lml related. Quote
R2400 0 Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, WesternGamer said: @R2400 I might have found the issue, try to replace version.dll with dinput.dll. I tested version.dll before trying to make a mod configuration for you and it did not work. I tested it with my custom .asi mod and the asi mod did nothing (The mod hogties the player right after loading in, when tested with dinput.dll.). Since version.dll did not work for me and most likely the same problem for you, I would recommend you deleting version.dll and replacing it with dinput.dll. You can download it here at: http://www.dev-c.com/rdr2/scripthookrdr2/. If that fixes the issue then I apologize that I wasted your time making you find the links for the mods. If the issue is resolved, feel free to report other issues here. It does not matter if it is not lml related. @WesternGamer Tried that still no luck Quote
WesternGamer 49 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Posted September 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, R2400 said: @WesternGamer Tried that still no luck @R2400 Ok, I will still make a mod configuration for you, expect it to be ready tomorrow afternoon in Est time. Quote
Stupter1 0 Posted September 10, 2021 Posted September 10, 2021 14 hours ago, WesternGamer said: @R2400 Ok, I will still make a mod configuration for you, expect it to be ready tomorrow afternoon in Est time. i want one too pleaseee Quote
Stupter1 0 Posted September 10, 2021 Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, WesternGamer said: @R2400 Ok, I will still make a mod configuration for you, expect it to be ready tomorrow afternoon in Est time. my problems are the same as hes aslo only read now thaT i need to be patient and ur doing it sorry lol, ima patient Edited September 10, 2021 by Stupter1 Quote
WesternGamer 49 Posted September 10, 2021 Author Posted September 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Stupter1 said: my problems are the same as hes @Stupter1 Please be patient, I will get around to you after I fix the problem for R2400. Expect a fix from me in the late afternoon in Est time. Quote
Stupter1 0 Posted September 10, 2021 Posted September 10, 2021 4 hours ago, WesternGamer said: @Stupter1 Please be patient, I will get around to you after I fix the problem for R2400. Expect a fix from me in the late afternoon in Est time. how long is it now i its almost midnight for me Quote
WesternGamer 49 Posted September 10, 2021 Author Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Stupter1 said: how long is it now i its almost midnight for me @Stupter1 In your case, it will be ready tomorrow for you as I don't want to keep you awake all night. Edited September 10, 2021 by WesternGamer Quote
Stupter1 0 Posted September 10, 2021 Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, WesternGamer said: @Stupter1 In your case, it will be ready tomorrow for you as I don't want to keep you awake all night. i use why em assort. amdillo restoration project. BDero - all of this listed are working, i list all working mods frist classic weapon names finite response honest brawls - not workin jmao rdr1 walk - not work jmfao -not work jmrp 3.3 not work jm anim resotration not work red dead beta unbotainble clothes - not work these were all lml my asi are: jmo orginal hair not workin no dual wilding open all interiro ped dmg overhaul rdr2 string translator sgtjoe battle creator. thats all ima sleep now Edited September 10, 2021 by Stupter1 Quote
WesternGamer 49 Posted September 10, 2021 Author Posted September 10, 2021 Thanks for the info, I will try to make a mod configuration. Quote
WesternGamer 49 Posted September 10, 2021 Author Posted September 10, 2021 @R2400 Some news: I got LML to work and Lenny's Simple Trainer to work. Red Dead Offline is also working. Will continue to add other mods to test. Quote
R2400 0 Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 @WesternGamer Thanks bro. Keep me posted. Quote
WesternGamer 49 Posted September 11, 2021 Author Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) @R2400 Update: So I am running into a issue where WhyEm's Assortment Red Dead Offline Edition is causing the game to crash when loading into the game. The mod will be excluded from testing and will not be sent with the mod configuration. The issue seems that the mod is interfering with other mods that is causing the game to crash. If your issue is that the game crashes when loading the world, then you should remove WhyEm's Assortment Red Dead Offline Edition from the lml folder and reinstall Red Dead Offline if you modified it when installing WhyEm's Assortment Red Dead Offline Edition. Also sorry that I forgot to tell you this earlier but it is actually perfectly fine to have dinput.dll and version.dll asi loaders at the same time. I recommend reinstalling both of these as some of your asi mods require different asi loaders. (This is due to some mods requiring version.dll or dinput.dll and the asi mod references to only one of them; they don't remap to different asi loaders.) I updated my help info to reflect that. If both fixes the problem then we found the issue. If not, I will continue making the mod configuration for you without WhyEm's Assortment Red Dead Offline Edition. Since you most likely don't check rdr2mods.com that often, I will continue making your mod configuration while waiting for your reply. P.S: For Ped Damage Overhaul, do you want the light, standard or overhaul version? Edited September 11, 2021 by WesternGamer 1 Quote
R2400 0 Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 @WesternGamer Hi, standard one please. I am going to run the game with just why em's and check if the mod get loaded in. I will let you know if that works. Quote
WesternGamer 49 Posted September 11, 2021 Author Posted September 11, 2021 1 minute ago, R2400 said: @WesternGamer Hi, standard one please. I am going to run the game with just why em's and check if the mod get loaded in. I will let you know if that works. @R2400 Thanks for the reply! I will await for your reply. Quote
R2400 0 Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 @WesternGamer Just did a quick launch. The game loads but the mod still isn't in the game for me. I am going try it with just red dead offline and see if thats appears in game. Quote
R2400 0 Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 @WesternGamer Just a quick question, do I need to give read/write permission for the install files? Quote
WesternGamer 49 Posted September 11, 2021 Author Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) @R2400 You should, as some mods generate files and read from config files. This is very important for lml or it will not work. Did not take in account Antivirus software as mine did not block the files. Also you may need to unblock the file in the file's file properties window through explorer. Unblock by checking Unblock and clicking OK. This only applies to .dll and .asi files. Totally forgot about that. If that fixes the issue, then sorry for wasting your time. Edited September 11, 2021 by WesternGamer Quote
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