Ped Damage Overhaul 2.0 BETA 7

1 hour ago, Agusss said:

I tell you the truth, I'm very new to mods, I barely know how to put them in haha, on top of that I don't even speak English, I'm Argentinian, I don't know how to adjust that.

I also discovered another bug that you have to shoot more than 20 shots in the legs for the npc to die.

Yeah these aren't bugs but are simply the settings in the ini file. Arm and leg damage is set to 1 by default so that NPCs aren't killed by a few arm or leg shots. You can adjust these however you like. Setting them to 0 puts them at their default state though if you're going for more realism you want to keep them low as it takes quite a few shots to the leg/arm to kill someone (unless you hit an artery though the game does not include arteries in limbs). I am experiencing bugs where the game isn't reacting to the way my settings are adjusted, resulting in unusual behavior such as health dropping to 4 and then staying there causing odd behavior such as NPCs getting back up and just standing there motionless until they randomly die and fall back down. Or health will drop way faster than what they are set to. I will try to help you figure out how to adjust your settings in the ini file:

Open the file titled PedDamageOverhaul.ini:

 

To change the arm/leg damage scroll down to the following lines:



Change those numbers to whatever you like. 0 sets them to the game's vanilla value as does setting them to 100. Setting them to 50 would make them do half the amount of damage as the vanilla game.

To change leg shot behavior such as tripping and falling, scroll down to the following lines:



I set mine very high as in reality when you get shot in the leg you're definitely not going to be able to run so they end up tripping and falling every one or two steps. Read the settings above and below and adjust those settings accordingly such as LegsHitThreshold. I set mine to 1 so one shot in one or both legs will cause them to start tripping and falling as they would in reality. Unfortunately Rockstar didn't animate a limping animation like the first game for some odd reason which would make it even more realistic so this is the best we can achieve.

I'll provide you with my ini file which is set about as realistically as it can be I think. Mind you, most weapons will down NPCs in one or two shots to the torso as they would in reality. Feel free to adjust the torso and head damage below the arm and leg damage shown above or lower the weapon damage which is located above the body damage settings:

PedDamageOverhaul.ini

 Hopefully you don't experience the same bugs that I am. My bugs could be happening due to another mod though I've tried removing all the ones that affect health and damage or combat behavior and the issues still persist.

On 6/27/2024 at 11:50 AM, Lonewulv13 said:

I may have figured out the issue. It seems if the bleeding chances are set too low PDO gets confused sometimes and health stops dropping. Though now I'm getting yet another issue where NPCs seem to be ignoring dying states completely even though dyingtstatechance is set to 100. Despite being under the dying state threshold NPCs will continue to move around and shoot. Also I'm not sure if this is an unavoidable issue though I've kind of just lived with it but when NPCs get disarmed often times they will point at me with nothing in their hand as if they're aiming a pistol and trying to shoot.

Also the playerinvincibility feature is not working.

PlayerInvincibility worked last time I tested.

I currently dont have the time to test myself, but I have implemented a new ini value called "DropNPCInDyingState". If set to 1, this should ragdoll every NPC as soon as their health value crosses the DyingThreshold (if the NPC is standing (= check if the head bone position is x cm above ground --> could be that NPCs who have low health and are trying to get up, will be ragdolled during the getting up animation - please report back if that looks off)).

PedDamageOverhaul.asi PedDamageOverhaul.ini

On 6/29/2024 at 11:44 PM, HughJanus said:

 

PlayerInvincibility worked last time I tested.

I currently dont have the time to test myself, but I have implemented a new ini value called "DropNPCInDyingState". If set to 1, this should ragdoll every NPC as soon as their health value crosses the DyingThreshold (if the NPC is standing (= check if the head bone position is x cm above ground --> could be that NPCs who have low health and are trying to get up, will be ragdolled during the getting up animation - please report back if that looks off)).

PedDamageOverhaul.asi 360 kB · 2 downloads PedDamageOverhaul.ini 34.87 kB · 4 downloads

Everything seems to be working fine, been using it with the Center Mass Bleedout Mod and CERR.

EDIT: Issues with my core depleting constantly without ever refilling on this new version.

15 hours ago, Lonewulv13 said:

Yeah these aren't bugs but are simply the settings in the ini file. Arm and leg damage is set to 1 by default so that NPCs aren't killed by a few arm or leg shots. You can adjust these however you like. Setting them to 0 puts them at their default state though if you're going for more realism you want to keep them low as it takes quite a few shots to the leg/arm to kill someone (unless you hit an artery though the game does not include arteries in limbs). I am experiencing bugs where the game isn't reacting to the way my settings are adjusted, resulting in unusual behavior such as health dropping to 4 and then staying there causing odd behavior such as NPCs getting back up and just standing there motionless until they randomly die and fall back down. Or health will drop way faster than what they are set to. I will try to help you figure out how to adjust your settings in the ini file:

Open the file titled PedDamageOverhaul.ini:

 

To change the arm/leg damage scroll down to the following lines:



Change those numbers to whatever you like. 0 sets them to the game's vanilla value as does setting them to 100. Setting them to 50 would make them do half the amount of damage as the vanilla game.

To change leg shot behavior such as tripping and falling, scroll down to the following lines:



I set mine very high as in reality when you get shot in the leg you're definitely not going to be able to run so they end up tripping and falling every one or two steps. Read the settings above and below and adjust those settings accordingly such as LegsHitThreshold. I set mine to 1 so one shot in one or both legs will cause them to start tripping and falling as they would in reality. Unfortunately Rockstar didn't animate a limping animation like the first game for some odd reason which would make it even more realistic so this is the best we can achieve.

I'll provide you with my ini file which is set about as realistically as it can be I think. Mind you, most weapons will down NPCs in one or two shots to the torso as they would in reality. Feel free to adjust the torso and head damage below the arm and leg damage shown above or lower the weapon damage which is located above the body damage settings:

PedDamageOverhaul.ini

 Hopefully you don't experience the same bugs that I am. My bugs could be happening due to another mod though I've tried removing all the ones that affect health and damage or combat behavior and the issues still persist.

Hello, good thing, the leg thing helped me, I set it to 80%, but now I don't understand why the damage to the torso kills more shots than before, I mean I need to shoot more times to kill it in the torso, I don't know if I hit something wrong

I even set the percentages to default and it's still the same in some ways, the fuck up kills her with 2 or 3 shotgun shots to the chest 💀.

29 minutes ago, Agusss said:

Hello, good thing, the leg thing helped me, I set it to 80%, but now I don't understand why the damage to the torso kills more shots than before, I mean I need to shoot more times to kill it in the torso, I don't know if I hit something wrong

I even set the percentages to default and it's still the same in some ways, the fuck up kills her with 2 or 3 shotgun shots to the chest 💀.

Scroll up to weapon damage as well as health values. Show me what they are.

1 hour ago, Lonewulv13 said:

Scroll up to weapon damage as well as health values. Show me what they are.

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17 hours ago, Lonewulv13 said:

Yeah these aren't bugs but are simply the settings in the ini file. Arm and leg damage is set to 1 by default so that NPCs aren't killed by a few arm or leg shots. You can adjust these however you like. Setting them to 0 puts them at their default state though if you're going for more realism you want to keep them low as it takes quite a few shots to the leg/arm to kill someone (unless you hit an artery though the game does not include arteries in limbs). I am experiencing bugs where the game isn't reacting to the way my settings are adjusted, resulting in unusual behavior such as health dropping to 4 and then staying there causing odd behavior such as NPCs getting back up and just standing there motionless until they randomly die and fall back down. Or health will drop way faster than what they are set to. I will try to help you figure out how to adjust your settings in the ini file:

Open the file titled PedDamageOverhaul.ini:

 

To change the arm/leg damage scroll down to the following lines:



Change those numbers to whatever you like. 0 sets them to the game's vanilla value as does setting them to 100. Setting them to 50 would make them do half the amount of damage as the vanilla game.

To change leg shot behavior such as tripping and falling, scroll down to the following lines:



I set mine very high as in reality when you get shot in the leg you're definitely not going to be able to run so they end up tripping and falling every one or two steps. Read the settings above and below and adjust those settings accordingly such as LegsHitThreshold. I set mine to 1 so one shot in one or both legs will cause them to start tripping and falling as they would in reality. Unfortunately Rockstar didn't animate a limping animation like the first game for some odd reason which would make it even more realistic so this is the best we can achieve.

I'll provide you with my ini file which is set about as realistically as it can be I think. Mind you, most weapons will down NPCs in one or two shots to the torso as they would in reality. Feel free to adjust the torso and head damage below the arm and leg damage shown above or lower the weapon damage which is located above the body damage settings:

PedDamageOverhaul.ini

 Hopefully you don't experience the same bugs that I am. My bugs could be happening due to another mod though I've tried removing all the ones that affect health and damage or combat behavior and the issues still persist.

I'm also trying to test your .ini file but it's not working, so I guess there's something wrong with that file, check it out brother.

22 hours ago, HughJanus said:

 

PlayerInvincibility worked last time I tested.

I currently dont have the time to test myself, but I have implemented a new ini value called "DropNPCInDyingState". If set to 1, this should ragdoll every NPC as soon as their health value crosses the DyingThreshold (if the NPC is standing (= check if the head bone position is x cm above ground --> could be that NPCs who have low health and are trying to get up, will be ragdolled during the getting up animation - please report back if that looks off)).

PedDamageOverhaul.asi 360 kB · 5 downloads PedDamageOverhaul.ini 34.87 kB · 7 downloads

I'm encountering a bug in mission where my health drops to 0 and blinks until my core is drained and I die. Is it possible the PlayerHealth option set to 0 is not disabling it in missions but dropping health?

On 7/1/2024 at 5:13 AM, NAUTY said:

I'm encountering a bug in mission where my health drops to 0 and blinks until my core is drained and I die. Is it possible the PlayerHealth option set to 0 is not disabling it in missions but dropping health?

Not possible, here is the code:

//set invincibility, if set in ini or adjust player health
if (ini_playerinvincibility == 1) PLAYER::SET_PLAYER_INVINCIBLE(player, true);
else if (ini_playerhealth != 0 && ENTITY::GET_ENTITY_MAX_HEALTH(playerPed, false) != ini_playerhealth)
{
    ENTITY::SET_ENTITY_MAX_HEALTH(playerPed, ini_playerhealth);
    ENTITY::SET_ENTITY_HEALTH(playerPed, ini_playerhealth, false);
}

7 hours ago, HughJanus said:

Not possible, here is the code:

 

//set invincibility, if set in ini or adjust player health
if (ini_playerinvincibility == 1) PLAYER::SET_PLAYER_INVINCIBLE(player, true);
else if (ini_playerhealth != 0 && ENTITY::GET_ENTITY_MAX_HEALTH(playerPed, false) != ini_playerhealth)
{
    ENTITY::SET_ENTITY_MAX_HEALTH(playerPed, ini_playerhealth);
    ENTITY::SET_ENTITY_HEALTH(playerPed, ini_playerhealth, false);
}

I played around with the core depletion time and the issue went away. Idk what the issue was since it only happened in missions at specific points. 

On 6/30/2024 at 4:40 PM, Agusss said:

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Does anyone know why the double barrel shotgun doesn't kill with 1 shot to the chest?

8 hours ago, Agusss said:

Does anyone know why the double barrel shotgun doesn't kill with 1 shot to the chest?

SpecialWeaponModifier is set to 30, meaning that affected weapons (your shotgun is one of them) do 30% of the usual damage.

Increase this one until you reach whatever damage behavior you are looking for.

41 minutes ago, HughJanus said:

SpecialWeaponModifier is set to 30, meaning that affected weapons (your shotgun is one of them) do 30% of the usual damage.

Increase this one until you reach whatever damage behavior you are looking for.

It didn't work for me, I don't understand why the truth is, he still rarely draws his weapons.

17 hours ago, Agusss said:

It didn't work for me, I don't understand why the truth is, he still rarely draws his weapons.

Wh..what?

Well I'm at a complete and total loss. I thought maybe there was some kind of mod conflict though I removed every other mod and the issues still persist. NPCs still stop running at 4 and stand there though with the bleeding chance higher they drop pretty quick though it still looks strange. Some just ignore dying states and continue moving and attacking when below dying state threshold. Is there a certain asi loader necessary for the current version of the game? Is there some kind of mod cache tied to the game save or something that needs to be cleared? Have you tested the mod recently after the last update? It's like there's a ghost in my machine screwing with me.

2 hours ago, Lonewulv13 said:

Well I'm at a complete and total loss. I thought maybe there was some kind of mod conflict though I removed every other mod and the issues still persist. NPCs still stop running at 4 and stand there though with the bleeding chance higher they drop pretty quick though it still looks strange. Some just ignore dying states and continue moving and attacking when below dying state threshold. Is there a certain asi loader necessary for the current version of the game? Is there some kind of mod cache tied to the game save or something that needs to be cleared? Have you tested the mod recently after the last update? It's like there's a ghost in my machine screwing with me.

There are only three ways NPCs can ignore the dying states:

1. You have EuphoriaModInstalled set to 1 (this only causes NPCs to stay down, when they fall and are below the thresholds - they will never be forcefully pushed down).
2. The chances for Dying States are below 100 (so some just wont be affected).
3. The NPC is an excluded character and the corresponding ini setting is turned on (to exclude those characters).

If those three are not the case, it might be an incompatibility, a script hook fault or something within the engine keeping NPCs from the effects of the script (--> least probable cause).

Options to deplete cores and remove money on missions seems to be not working for me. I set them both on 0, I use  scripthook v1. Version 2.0-BETA-7

Mod is working other than that.

;CoreDepletionAfterDeath will deplete all cores entirely if the player dies, if enabled (can be set to either 0 or 1)
CoreDepletionAfterDeath = 1
;StopCoreDepletionAfterDeathInMissions can be set to either 1 or 0 - if set to 1 the player's cores will not be depleted on death if a mission is currently active
StopCoreDepletionAfterDeathInMissions = 0
;MoneyLossAfterDeath will decrease the player's money on death, if enabled
MoneyLossAfterDeath = 1
;StopMoneyLossAfterDeathInMissions can be set to either 1 or 0 - if set to 1 the player's money will not decrease on death if a mission is currently active
StopMoneyLossAfterDeathInMissions = 0

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Fixed customized NPC health not being applied.

I also divided the ini set bleeding chance parameters by 10, so bleeding chances can be set even lower (for longer bleedouts).

Please see that you multiply your currently set bleeding chances by 10, if you intend to use your own ini file (BleedingChanceShot, BleedingChanceDying1, BleedingChanceDying2, LongerBleedingChance).

so in beta 7 was 

BleedingChanceDying1 = 12
BleedingChanceDying2 = 6

in your latest is 
BleedingChanceDying1 = 100
BleedingChanceDying2 = 40

so how to understand that now?

beta for BleedingChanceDying was 1.2 % and  now is 1%?

beta for BleedingChanceDying2 was 0,6% and now is 0,4%?

sorry I got confused

 

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;SpecialWeaponModifier - since NPCs have more health, some weapons should do more damage - this is the modifier for weapon damage (200 = 200% = twice the normal damage) (shotguns, sniper rifles, dynamite arrows, improved arrows and tomahawks will be affected by this)
SpecialWeaponModifier = 30

I thought enemies has less hp, not more. That's why my and someone else's  question before, why for instance shotgun  should do only 30% nominal damage?

I understand that's a mistake in description and actually npc has less hp, that's why shotgun should do only 30% dmg? 

you said:
 

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;DyingMovementThreshold is the health threshold under which NPCs wont be able to get back up again when knocked down (still moving on the ground) - if DyingMovment is disabled (in the advanced section),
;the behavior under this threshold is the same as for the DyingThreshold

but there is no DyingMovment option to disabled in [PedDamageConfiguration_Advanced]

If dyingstatechance is set by default 100%, no matter where and how hard I damage the enemy will always goes down? Or some conditions like hp threshold, number if shots in the legs must be fulfilled?

I'm asking cuz whenever I shot on enemy foot he always goes down, so one shot in one leg is enough,kinda easy and I think something is wrong.


Does PDO works with Live Leak Ragdoll Overhaul V7.4 https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/1746?tab=posts or should I install CERR?

Every time I die and respawn, mission or not, using the new PDO, my heart core is constantly low and can't be refilled. This is accompanied by the RGB split effect the game gives the player to notify them their cores are low. CoreDepletionAfterDeath is set to 0, so is CoreDepletion.

28 minutes ago, oofkal said:

Every time I die and respawn, mission or not, using the new PDO, my heart core is constantly low and can't be refilled. This is accompanied by the RGB split effect the game gives the player to notify them their cores are low. CoreDepletionAfterDeath is set to 0, so is CoreDepletion.

Does option to core depletion to be nullified and money remove in missions work for you?

On 7/7/2024 at 4:55 AM, HughJanus said:

There are only three ways NPCs can ignore the dying states:

1. You have EuphoriaModInstalled set to 1 (this only causes NPCs to stay down, when they fall and are below the thresholds - they will never be forcefully pushed down).
2. The chances for Dying States are below 100 (so some just wont be affected).
3. The NPC is an excluded character and the corresponding ini setting is turned on (to exclude those characters).

If those three are not the case, it might be an incompatibility, a script hook fault or something within the engine keeping NPCs from the effects of the script (--> least probable cause).

So I copied all the files to the cracked version of the game and the issue was... semi-fixed? Most NPCs will still freeze at 4hp but will usually drop within a second or two. Still looks weird as they just go limp and fall forward.  I just can't seem to get them to run for longer, drop to the ground and writhe for a little while then die. They completely ignore the new DropNPCInDyingState. Can you tell me which version of Scripthook and asi loader you're using?

Has anyone had problem with damage modifiers for PDO? I set leg modifier 1%, torso 100 %, weapon 100%, but not matter what when I hit the enemy on the leg it takes more dmg then should, it should be only 1. But when enemy goes into dying stage then actually hit dmg on leg works and it's just 1 point dmg like it have should been.It seems when fights starts and enemy is not yet in dying stage, the mod doesn't properly recognize and calculate body part dmg modifiers

EDIT:

 

Actually I found the cause- it's a mod called Alternative Levelling.

Any chance you can make it compatible with PED- author of the mod is not responding, however  mod has just one asi files- so I imagine it can not be edited?

Yeah I'm suspecting the current Scripthook/ASI loader is the actual culprit for me. Tried a bunch of different versions. None seem to be working properly. The only values that seem to reflect properly are weapon damage and body damage. Unless police in Saint Denis react differently. Though I recall everything working fine before the last game update.

Is is possible that law have different behavior parameters?

I think I've basically figured out the issue. If I change any of the following values, the odd standing around while bleeding occurs:

BleedingChanceDying1 = 100
BleedingChanceDying2 = 40

BleedingChanceShot = 150

Keeping the values like this seems to be the closest I can get to achieving natural behaviors. Npcs don't run for very long while bleeding out though at least they drop to the ground when reaching 4hp rather than standing around. Most of the time anyway.

However (of course) I've discovered a new glaring issue that is bizarre as all hell. I've noticed it randomly happen before but only with single NPCs and could never figure out what was causing it. Whenever you use your lasso on someone, virtually all NPCs start to freak out and do this weird gyrating dance thing. It is highly noticeable in Saint Denis as dozens of NPCs will start gyrating around you. It even effects spawning as if you start going down a street tons of horses and NPCs will start to spawn and many will be doing the strange gyrating move.... This game just doesn't want me to play it with this mod (and I can't go back to vanilla after using it).